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Notes for Peter Noyes
Notes from Paul M. Noyes:
Peter first appeared in the lay subsidies at Penton Grafton [Weyhill] in 36 Henry VIII [1544/5] and 37 Henry VIII [1545/6] when he was taxed for £10 in goods. He was again taxed for this amount in 1 Edw. VI [1547/8], 3 Edw. VI [1549/50], 4 Edw. VI [1550/1, and 5 Edw. VI [1551/2], but his goods were valued at only £5 in 6 Edw. VI [1552/3. He was taxed for £15 in goods in the subsidy of 1571 and £10 in 1586, but his name did not appear in the subsidies of 1594 or 1599, indicating his death before 1594.
Peter Noyes and others were presented at court on 1 April 1557 for not ringing their pigs. On 10 October 1559, the Court Baron of Ramridge ordered the tenants not to pasture their cattle in the Ryding and the Pykem, now in the tenure of Peter Noyes, farmer there, without Peter's permission. The tenants had claimed common pasture. Christopher Rookes, clerk, rector of Weyhill, surrendered a messuage and half a virgate of land called Stiles to the use of Peter Noyes on 8 April 1561. Peter took the same to hold to him and his sons Richard and Peter, to the longest liver (Peter had just been born). Peter Noyes (Sr.) was presented at the court baron on 26 April 1568 for not making his hedge. In what was basically a renewal of the previous lease for lives, intended to include his most recently born son, Thomas, he appeared again before the court on 8 June 1574, surrendering the messuage and half a virgat of land called Styles, late in the tenure of Richard Wyntrey, clark, to the use of Richard, Thomas, and Peter (the younger) Noyse and the longest liver of them.
Peter Noyes received the manor of Ramridge as his share of his inheritance from his father. RAmridge must have been worth more than Blissmore Hall - or he farmed it more successfully - as his brother Robert Noyse was taxed for only £6 in goods in 1571 and Robert's heir William was taxed for only £4 in goods in 1586 - less than half the amount for which Peter was taxed. In 1594, Peter's son and heir William "Noice" was taxed for £14 in goods and for £11 in 1598. In 1594, William Noice "jun" [of Blissmore Hall] was taxed for only £4 in goods, and in 1598, "Mrs. Nyse of Blissmore Hall" was taxed for £4 in goods.
Further from Paul Noyes' Web page:
Peter Noyes had been a benevolent lord to the tenants of his manor. After his
death, those same tenants brought suit against William Noyes "father and son"
of Ramridge manor. In depositions dated 9 July 4 James I [1606] and 22 and 23
April 5 JAmes I [1607], it was stated that the Noyes family held the manor of
Ramridge, which was part of the possessions of the Almhouse of Elwelme,
including lands in Penton Grafton, Nutbeame, and Glanvill or Glanfield. The
tenants complained that they had been allowed to pasture cattle in certain
fields and to use a pond to water their animals, but that William Noyes, after
succeeding to the manor, denied them those privileges. Furthermore, William
had set up a lodge with a keeper in it on the tenants' common. He allowed an
increase in the rabbit population so the tenants no longer had sufficient
pannage for their pigs. And they no longer had brushwood for fuel and hedge
mending. These were very real and important issues to the comfort of their daily
lives.
The tenants also claimed that William was allowing the buildings to decay and
collapse. The timber was no longer supplied free of charge for repairing tenants'
houses and outbuildings, as it had been by Peter Noyes, and the woodreeve was
no longer chosen by the tenants. William Noyes was also putting up hedges and
ditches, impeding what they believed to be dreaded enclosures that became a
main battle theme between lord and tenants during this period. "Ould" Peter
Noyes, "who used to use the tenants very kindly," did not charge the tenanta for
the release of impounded animals. He had replenished the woods and coppices
for some fifty years, and had stored them with the "game of conies." Peter Noyes
was stated to be the father of William Noyes the elder. Robert Same, aged sixty,
who was born within two miles of the farmhouse, stated he never knew any other
farmer than Peter Noyes the father and William Noyes the elder "that synce now
dwelleth there with William his son for they ever had it in their name synce he
this deponent was of understanding." Peter Noyes, gentleman, of Andover, aged
forty-five, also testified, but he managed not to say much of anything one way or
another.
An important point that emerges from this suit is that there must have been three
generations of William Noyeses at Ramridge, rather than two, after "ould" Peter
Noyes. When William Noyes "the father" , born about 1541/2, was stated to be
dwelling at Ramridge "with William his son," this would refer to an adult
William under whose care the old man was living, not a young son age about
fourteen. The elder William's son William, must have been born about 1562, as
he married the heiress Joan Bacon in 1581, when both were in their late teens. It
is understandable that as both the younger William Noyes and Joan BAcon were
heirs of important estates their marriage would have been arranged well in
advance. Such an arrangement would explain what would otherwise seem
uncomfortably tight chronology. The eldest William Noyes was buried at Weyhill
24 July 1626. His administration was granted to his relict, Hellene, on 2
October 1626. The administration of William Noyes "sen" [the first William's
son], late of Ramridge, was granted to his daughter Catherine Noyse (corrected
in the margin to Catherine, wife of Ambrose Prewett) on 6 February 1629/30.
But the son and heir of Joan BAcon, William Noyes, was alive and aged forty
when she died in 1631 - a fact that forces the conclusion that there must have
been two generations of William Noyeses of Ramridge between "ould" Peter
Noyes and the William baptized at Weyhill on 15 October 1592.
The Court of Requests cases prove that William Noyes of Ramridge was son of
Peter Noyes. Peter was also stated in two pedigrees of the family to be father of
Peter Noyes of Andover. The wills of both Agnes (Noyes) Scullard and her
husband, John Skullaard, gentleman, call Mr. Peter Noyes of Andover her
brother. And Thomas Noyes, in his will, makes "my loving Brother Mr. Peter
Noyes and my loving Cosen [nephew] Mr. William Noyes of Ramridge" his
overseers. Taken together, these references provide proof of the relationships.
There may have been two other siblings as well. A Robert Noyes had a son
buried at Weyhill 23 December 1565 and a son John baptized there 25 June
1568, and a Henry Noyes married Joan Wale at Weyhill 2 November 1595 and
had his own family. It is also possible that this Robert was son of Robert Noyes
of Blissmore Hall, Peter Noyes' brother. Without more information, it is
impossible to determine what might be their correct placement in the family.
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